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Sam Kahn's avatar

This is really fascinating Naomi, thank you. Nothing like a literary deep dive to get a completely different perspective on the world.

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Timothy Burke's avatar

This time reading the whole essay! You're really on to why history-writing has to skew so strongly in a humanities direction, and why people who want to make really strong empirical claims about the past come to so much grief. It's not just our fictions about murder today that are not remotely realistic (thus raising questions about how to read past narratives like the sagas) but even our supposedly rigorous data about crimes and crime rates needs all sorts of caveats (thus raising all sorts of questions about estimates of past crime made from judicial proceedings, etc.) This is why historians got so irritated with Steven Pinker trying to claim he could document comprehensively a global decline in the rate of homicide and interpersonal violence over the last three thousand years--anybody who digs in deep to any of the archival sources (including literature) you might use to build a claim knows how questionable those sources are, often at a really fundamental interpretative level. Like, it's really clear that Icelandic authors were profoundly *interested* in murder and really liked murder to be a major part of their stories but it's not at all obvious that they were saying "We here in Iceland have a serious murder problem that calls for rethinking dispute resolution". (In fact, it seems kind of unlikely that's what they're saying.)

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