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Robert Minto's avatar

It's funny to me that Ong is this year's guy, because he's part of a line of academic research that has moved considerably beyond him. (But then, that was also true of Girard.) In my opinion, the bit of his work that remains interesting today is actually his excellent study of Peter Ramus. Still, I agree with you that he is this year's guy: he keeps popping up in my reading too.

I think, however, that the reason he's this year's guy makes it inappropriate for him to be this year's guy. (This is not a criticism of your essay but of the fact that Ong is this year's guy.) Here's my reasoning. The really empirically obvious difference between literate and illiterate societies is memory. Without writing, illiterate societies tended to develop other ways to retain information. (Lynne Kelly is the synthesist to read on this: basically there has been an explosion of cool new research on the amazing and intricate ways illiterate societies have preserved information. In terms of mnemonics, literacy was a downgrade.) The somewhat wishywashy stuff about abstract thought vs immediacy, etc that Ong speculates about is all downstream of this one hard difference: do you have to keep info in your head or can you write it down? Because of that--this is my idea now--literacy is a kind of one way street thanks to modern technology. We might be moving away from literacy, but we are not moving back toward a world where information is stored in personal memory. Imagine a kid who can't read at all but can somehow use tiktok and youtube. They do not live in a world where they have to store all the important info in their head. Video and audio recording are themselves ways of preserving info outside your head. I imagine your average tiktok dancing teen studies the dance of the hour with the same scholastic intensity as Aquinas studying Aristotle. So the kind of "orality" this hypothetical kid exhibits lacks the absolutely key feature of pre-literate orality (memorizing everything). This kids "orality" is a new kind of thing. And that's why (imo) the work of someone who studied the transition from orality to literacy is basically useless for us trying to understand this hypothetical transition from literacy to... post-literacy? or whatever fancy word we want to use for it.

Sam Kriss's avatar

not to out-hipster myself but i was already doing ongiana back in january 2024 https://samkriss.substack.com/p/before-i-reach-my-enemy-bring-me

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