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Frank Dent's avatar

I find Wordsworth’s sparrow poem quite visual. The sparrow is a small bird and a commonplace one, so this discovery of the nest with its eggs is like a glimpse into a tiny parallel world that was there all along. Yet the speaker’s point of view quickly withdraws and enlarges, first by using human terms to describe the nest (“home and sheltered bed”), then the sudden appearance of Father’s house. It works almost like a cinematic pull back.

And the Mandelstam stanza has an image that I “saw” instantly. When the speaker says the port “burns with poppies” I instantly visualized a field of red ones. And sure enough, we’re confirmed in the poppies’ redness by “Turkish flags” on the boats. Again, almost a cinematic image, in this case an aerial long shot.

Yes to more poetry talk.

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Gemma Mason's avatar

Hold up. Qualia and the underlying reality are not the same thing at all! I think there’s an implicit progression here: reality produces subjective experiences (qualia) which a poet or author might then put into words. (Or not, depending on your theory of what poetry ought to be!)

You’ve focused here on a potential dividing line between experience and the verbal expression thereof, asking which side of that line is more important. But not everything on the “experience” side of the line actually corresponds to reality.

We do not usually experience atoms, for example! In fact, one might argue that we never do; that atoms are instead merely a theory about the kind of reality that might give rise to experiences like “these pollen particles on water are moving around randomly” or “this electron microscope has produced a picture that looks like some bumps.”

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